tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241749907989726592.post6824258422031158011..comments2024-03-21T02:29:52.141-05:00Comments on Awesomely Disgusting!: Change: What GW Can Do to ImproveC Swizzyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14536868572111502442noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241749907989726592.post-19982106499517096972010-08-13T03:20:30.834-05:002010-08-13T03:20:30.834-05:00I completely agree that a change to the fluff isn&...I completely agree that a change to the fluff isn't a bad thing - I have recently started playing again after a long break....I stopped playing on the release of 3rd gen rules and have just started again. From my current perspective very little has changed in regards to the fluff - it is pretty much the same as it was 11 years ago.<br /><br />I think GW really need to take a leaf out of Marvel and DCs book in the way they handle their canon - the comic industry has seen a huge resurgence since the introduction of canon changing plots such as Civil War - and I think its time that GW look at doing the same.the 6th degreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10114651433321299632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241749907989726592.post-73803407858975380992010-06-26T09:58:39.963-05:002010-06-26T09:58:39.963-05:00I'd heard bits and pieces about some of the HQ...I'd heard bits and pieces about some of the HQ type Necrons being sentient, which I think would work well. I think having the rank and file type units (warriors, immortals, etc) as mindless zombie robots should be maintained, though.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510608762641926654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241749907989726592.post-61017613788400404572010-06-25T19:24:29.416-05:002010-06-25T19:24:29.416-05:00Big changes for the necrons do seem to be on the h...Big changes for the necrons do seem to be on the horizon fluff wise. I believe there is a passage in the blood angels book that portrays them as thinking sentient creatures rather than automated extensions of a extermination protocol.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00931585156327023117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241749907989726592.post-87949847996424035072010-06-25T13:55:31.501-05:002010-06-25T13:55:31.501-05:00I think they have a GOLDEN opportunity to make som...I think they have a GOLDEN opportunity to make some harmless but effective change with the next Necron Codex.<br /><br />Hopefully, they really expand the Necrons army selections; more units, more wargear, etc.<br /><br />Of course, then you're left wondering how that works fluff-wise. Other factions get a smattering of new stuff in their updated codex all the time, but the bulk of their army is already known. The Necrons, OTOH, have so little to choose from to start with, that any additional units will make it seem like they're an all-new force, so why weren't these fancy new things there all along...?<br /><br />I figure they can work it fluff-wise by saying that a new phase of the Necron reawakening has begun, and all the new units & gear we've never seen before are now coming out of their slumber.<br /><br />Fresh Necron toys to play with, interesting and scary new fluff to consider, and there's a sizeable "change" in the 40K universe that doesn't send it into a Ragnarok-like deathspin.<br /><br />Of course, like I said, this is all predicated on the idea that GW gives the Necrons more unit choices and such to begin with. If they intend to keep the Necrons lean like they are now, but bring them into 5th Ed. just via rules changes, well, obviously my idea won't work.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510608762641926654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241749907989726592.post-44854354418716651282010-06-25T12:06:03.567-05:002010-06-25T12:06:03.567-05:00Actually according to GW fluff as it stands, if ca...Actually according to GW fluff as it stands, if cadia falls there is nothing that the imperium could do in time to stop the chaos fleets from reaching Terra and ripping the heart out of the imperium.<br /><br />If terra falls, then there goes the astronomicon and no one can navigate the warp anymore with any remote sense of safety. There goes the imperium, everything would degrade into a galaxy wide post apocalyptic setting.<br /><br />The problem is that any change that has real meanining in moving the timeline forward triggers the doomsday conditions that GW has already put into the fluff. There is no avoiding it, 40k is set at the last hour of the last year of the 40th millennium. Ticking over to the 41st millennium starts the end of all things.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00931585156327023117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241749907989726592.post-84252066966445076912010-06-25T09:34:31.582-05:002010-06-25T09:34:31.582-05:00I don't think that he is advancing some massiv...I don't think that he is advancing some massive change (The Emperor Dies!) or anything like that. <br /><br />For instance, what if Cadia actually fell? <br /><br />So freaking what. It wouldn't change the models, and instead would provide more stories to tell. Advancing the story in locations that are not of fundamental importance to the background is fine. I wouldn't virus bomb the Ultramarine Homeworld if I were them, that seems a little much.<br /><br />But the 40K universe is so big that things can change, people can die, stories can be told, instead of a never ending quagmire. Take a look at Legend of the Five Rings, I thought they did a great job of that.Shawn Lowreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09122891549361599552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3241749907989726592.post-17211842756855022102010-06-25T02:00:20.301-05:002010-06-25T02:00:20.301-05:00The one thing that I'll comment on here is the...The one thing that I'll comment on here is the matter of the Fluff, when it comes down to it, that is all GW owns and they would be fools to tamper with it. They have pushed the story as far as it will go without destroying everything they have created since the days of Rouge Trader.<br /><br />They would have to destroy the setting and turn it into something else. While it may work, it would be an insane risk. Nothing is more unforgiving than a fan who has had his focus taken away. I'll give an example of this in another company, Wizards of the Coast and the Forgotten Realms.<br /><br />When DnD made the change over from Edition 3.5 to 4th Edition, WotC decided to advance the FR setting 100 years. The reason was that the setting, like 40k, had too much fluff. Every conceivable story could be told and while the setting was insanely popular, it was glutted and stale. By advancing it a century and adding in a cataclysm to scour away parts of it, they had a new setting with roots in the old. The outrage from players was deafening and the changes were extremely unpopular amongst the player base at the time.<br /><br />GW has such a risk if they advance their fluff. The only change that could happen is if there is a cataclysm and that means Drastic change. At best they could test the waters with something billed as a "what if" campaign, but that would be it. It just isn't worth the risk.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00931585156327023117noreply@blogger.com